Paine.org - Message Board Archive 3

June 1999 to December 1999

Fri Jun 4 02:04:50 1999 from 4045-maine-56k.ime.net
Merle (Paine) Bragdon <mbragdon@hotmail.com> 

I am a direct decendant of Thomas Paine who came to America from England with his son Thomas (born in 1612), in 1622. Thomas, the son, married Mary Snow, who was born in Plymouth, Mass about 1630. She was the daughter of Nickolas and Constance (Hopkins) Snow. They had eight sons and two daughters. He died August 16, 1706 and Mary died on April 28, 1704. They settled in Eastham, Mass. My line left for Boston in 1781 and migrated to what is now Bar Harbor in 1783. Anyone out there related to me?

Sat Jun 5 01:57:04 1999 from ltnppp-12.trump.net.au
Luke <lpis@hotmail> 

My grandpa has been trying to trace back our family tree as far back as possible and he is stuck. He has got as far as GEORGE PAINE from Islington, Middlesex and was born in 1826. He married MARY BRICE in 1844 and they had 7 kids. At least one of their kids were born in Islington and the rest were born in Tasmania, Australia. If any one has any information could they please send it to me. Thanks.

Tue Jun 8 22:16:39 1999 from p21-shelduck-gui.tch.virgin.net
Howard Pain <howard.pain@virgin.net> 

I have been tracing my Kentish ancestors for some years now and have got back to Thomas Pain and Mary Baker who lived in River, near Dover, Kent from about 1754. The family in those early years were mainly papermakers or bricklayers. I have compiled a database of Kentish PAIN, births, marriages & deaths from the GRO in London and will search for any PAIN references for anyone, but only for this particular spelling. Have also got quite a few newspaper references from the 19th Century. I would be pleased to hear from anyone with PAIN connections in Kent.

Thu Jun 10 18:26:47 1999 from isu-cache2.isu.edu
Sue Thomsen <thomsusa@isu.edu> 

I am looking for anyone or everyone who can help locate information concerning my grandfather, his siblings, and parents and anything else. Charles Harvey Payne DOB 9/29/1883, Ennis, Ellis County Texas. Father William Henry Payne, Mother Janie Ward. In the 1980 census, Ellis County Texas, there is a William Payne with a wife of Mary (of course, this is before Charles is born. I have no idea if this is the correct Payne for my grandfather. These Paynes came from Alabama. He had two or three siblings. Maybe two brothers and one sister. He never told his family about his parents or his siblings. He left his family early. We do not know where his parents are from. They may have been first generation US born citizens His ancestors are suppose to be irish. He left his family early in his life and never looked back. He made a comment early in 1962 that his sister may be in town staying at the Brown Palace in Denver. He never checked her out and his children and grand children never asked questions. In the 1920 census, my grandmother Sophie Anne Hosea Payne (Charles' wife) stated that her husband was from Tennessee. She is known to have not trusted the census takers and may have given wrong information on purpose.

Thu Jun 10 22:24:33 1999 from peop146.peoplescom.net
Tommy J Payne <tompat@peoplescom.net> 

My father's name was Thomas Rudolph Payne b. 1906. in Fannin Tx., Goliad Co. Tx.My grandfather was Thomas Riffe Payne b.1883 and I don't know where he was born. I don't know his father's name. I've heard that both Thomas Riffe Payne & his came to Tx sometime after 1883. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm really at a loss to finding this link. Thanks Tom Payne

Mon Jun 21 22:55:08 1999 from proxy.iwvisp.com
Gwen Creamer <gdcreamer@yahoo.com> 

I am looking for any information in locating my family tree. My Grandfathers name was Claude Payne and he was married to Claudean Bull. He worked in the mines in Quawpaw Oklahoma in the 20's or 30's. He had four daughters. Dorthy, Claudean, Cleda Mae, and Lowatha. He was of Indian decent and died in the 30's?? in California. He is buried in Poway CA. I Know there is a cousin of my mothers who has that information and hope to make contact. Thanks Gwen

Sat Jul 3 06:24:18 1999 from asc33.mc.maricopa.edu
Al Feldman <feldman@mail.mc.maricopa.edu> 

I am looking for information for a male child born in Boston, Ma April or May 1961, whose mother is Marilyn Paine. The baby was given up for adoption. Any information will be appreciated. Mnay thanks!!

Mon Jul 19 00:06:45 1999 from 1cust186.tnt2.eugene.or.da.uu.net
Jerry  <jbauc@worldnet.att.net> 

I am tracing my grandparents and g grandparents. Wilbur Marshall Payne b 1891 in Durham Ct. first wife Pauline Bilger, son of Robert and Marie Payne. Robert b abt 1861 in Durham. Inf from Wilbur's birth certificate. Wilbur was divorced and either stayed or returned to Ct. Any inf will be appreciated. Please E Main

Tue Jul 20 11:35:52 1999 from spider-tn072.proxy.aol.com
Kathy Muller <Kjsm77@aol.com> 

I am looking for info on a Dinealia Payne. I have she married Francis M. Youngman. They had a daughter- Iva Lee Youngman in 1879 in Princeton,Mo. If anyone has more info on these people I would appreciate the help!

Wed Jul 21 02:27:11 1999 from spider-wo062.proxy.aol.com
Len Moody <LEDI1234@aol.com> 

Looking for info on my gr grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Payne. Who married Martin Moody in 1845 my gr grandfather. Were married in Marshall Co. Ms. Her father is believed to be William Riley Payne. She and Martin had several children, William Riley Moody abt 1849,Oliver Justin Moody abt 1854, Levi Moody, Mary Moody and others. Please e-mail me at Ledi1234@aol.com. Thanks, Len Moody

Sun Jul 25 21:43:36 1999 from spider-wb081.proxy.aol.com
Angela McGuire <boogerpudn@aol.com> 

I am a Paine. I am looking for any information on a Patience (died 1839) and/or Potter (died 1872)Paine in Michigan. They had a child named Nathan Windsor Paine. I need to know who their parents were and if they had any additional children. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sun Aug 1 17:34:08 1999 from tnt1-78.toolcity.net
Joe Basile <basile@toolcity.net> 

Searching Paynes of Nothwest PA. Specifically Cussewago and Hayfield Townships of Crawford County, PA. Have back to the birth of James Payne b. 1781. Don't know if his ancestors came from New Jersey or Virginia. Any help appreciated.

Fri Aug 6 02:34:08 1999 from spider-tl041.proxy.aol.com
Sharon Ogle <Mikkiana57@aol.com> 

Tislie Ann Paine married George Bain probably in the 1870s, both from Pennsylvania. They moved to Ogle Co., IL with small children. Looking for any information on the Paine/Bain line. Thank you.

Fri Aug 6 06:01:35 1999 from tide74.microsoft.com
reuben logsdon <reuben@logsdon.net>  (Home Page)

great site! rock on!

Fri Aug 6 16:21:17 1999 from 143-180.dhcp.alfredtech.edu
Rob Paine <ryderman@infoblvd.net> 

PAINE CARLOSS G. PAINE EARL.J PAINE JAMES PAINE SUCCUS F. PAINE WILLIAM D. These names are from 1850 in Nunda,NY. I am related to these names and if anyone has information on them, Please E-Mail me. Thanks

Sat Aug 7 20:45:43 1999 from phone202.pitnet.net
Paul Hansen <eeppuu@hotmail.com> 

I'm looking for any info on my gr grandfather Frank Payne. I don't have much info just that he was living in rural Conrad Grundy Co.,Iowa in about 1915-1918. My gr grandmother ( Gaylena Hunt) left him after they had lost a son in 1916, my grandmother(D'Loras Margaret Payne) was born May 16,1917 in Eldora Iowa. Gaylena got remarried and I know that Frank payne soon remarried and had at least one more daughter any maybe a son. Frank Payne was a short, fat man and he may have lived in the Wesley Kossuth Co. Iowa area. Thank you for the great payne,pain web pages.

Mon Aug 16 11:52:15 1999 from
Chris Pain <pains@one.net.au> 

I live in Melbourne, Australia. I have relatives in Enfield, Middlesex, England and they can only trace our Pain family back to a Great-Grandfather who came from Stoke Newington in east London. They were Fruit Market Traders. My Grandfathers name was Charles Edmund Pain.

Wed Aug 18 22:40:28 1999 from dialup-209.244.225.209.boston2.level3.net
Andrew Pierce

Wed Aug 18 22:46:15 1999 from dialup-209.244.225.209.boston2.level3.net
Andrew Pierce <apgen@earthlink.net> 

Looking for any living descendants, or clues to finding them, of any descendants of Elijah Paine (1757-1842)and wife Sarah Porter, of Williamstown, Orange Co.VT. One son was Charles Paine, Governor of Vermont. Others were Sophia Paine, m.James C. Dunn, and George Paine(1803-36), married Sarah Olcott Porter. The latter had son George Porter Paine(1832-1861), married Harriet E. Mansfield and was an attorney in Neosho Falls KS; and grandsons Charles Francis Paine(b.1859)& William George Paine(b.1861), of Neosha Falls KS in 1861.

Sun Aug 22 00:18:42 1999 from atmax-4-37.enter.net
Richard K Warner <warnerr@enter.net> 

I'm seeking information on Rensselaer Paine. He was born in NY about 1830-1840 and died in 1862 in Winona MN where he is buried. From NY he moved to Wis. where in 1858 he married Laura Jane Bigelow. They had 2 sons before his death. Specificly, when and where was he born and who were his parents? I find mention of him in the Bigelow genealogy but nothing in the Paine histories. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Richard Warner warnerr@enter.net

Fri Aug 27 18:59:02 1999 from user-33qsco2.dialup.mindspring.com
GiGi Knight <gigi101@juno.com> 

Researching John Payne born 1769 St. Mary's Co.Maryland. He married Dorothy Drury. The children are William, John L., Cornelius, Ignatius, and Dennis Payne. John Payne moved his family to Nelson Co. Ky. then to Knottsville, Daviess Co. Ky. Any info on this family is needed.

Thu Sep 2 22:13:01 1999 from 1cust76.tnt29.sfo3.da.uu.net
antoinette vawter <avawter11@excite.com>  (Home Page)

I am working on the Payne family of Orange/Alamance, NC. John Payne>Isaiah Payne>George Patterson Payne>Sterling Rushing Payne, my g g grandfather. Some descendants are still living in Alamance and the gen. soc. there is active and has information on this family. In John Payne's day, there were variants used in his line. Paine was one.

Mon Sep 6 17:49:03 1999 from rkd001.acadia.net
Bev Stedford <nobeau@acadia.net> 

I am trying to trace Clarissa Condell Payne/ Stedford. She was born in Huntington, NY in 1853, died in Waterford, CT in 1925. She had 4 children, Gertrude, Frank, Aubrey and Harold. She was married to either a Charles or a Frank James Stedford. We think the older children, Gertrude and Frank were born in NY, the other two in CT. She was either widowed or divorced from same or both, who knows. Thanks for any help

Tue Sep 7 13:07:54 1999 from lonegrove3p153.cld.brightok.net
jovita black <ngc3c273@brightok.net> 

I am looking for My Great-grandfather 4 times removed. His name was John Payne. He died in Kershaw Co. SC. I can only guess the date that he died. It was around 1830 or so. I do not know his spouse but their children were Daniel,Archilus,William,Benjamin, Geroge. Daniel married Nancy M.Wright.She died Dec.1883 in Tipton Co.Tenn. Any information concerning these Payne's are appreciated. Jovita Black

Wed Sep 8 04:07:09 1999 from cheese.pcug.org.au
Robyn Bialkowski <bkowski@pcug.org.au> 

Does anyong have any record of a John Thomas Andrew Payne who married Mary Jane Smart at Hope Valley in South Australia, Australia, in 1886 Mary Jane Smart's family came out from England on the Charlotte Gladstone in 1866, Mary was born in Hope Valley. I have no record of how John Thomas Andrew arrived in South Australia! Can anyone help? Robyn

Sat Sep 18 21:20:49 1999 from cit-p6-101.hitter.net
Ed Hicks <ehicks@hitter.net> 

Looking for ancestors and sibs of Peter PAINE; b: 1 jul 1820 in New York d: 1888 in Michigab m: Cynthia ANDREWS Have data on Peter & Cynthia's descendants

Mon Sep 20 15:50:25 1999 from as2n1-24.invsn.com
Ted Pack <tedpack@thevision.net>  (Home Page)

Laura Payne, b. 14 Aug 1844, Catlettsburg, KY I have Laura Payne's obituary (below) and little else. She was my gg aunt. Any connections? I have lots of her descendants, only the name of her parents. --------------------------------------- Laura Payne Cady was born near Ashland, Kentucky August 14, 1844, being a daughter of Joseph Payne. Her father was one of the well-known Payne family of Virginia and an early settler in the western part of old Virginia, which later became West Virginia. Mrs. Cady was a direct descendent of General William Payne, better known as "Little Joe" Payne of Revolutionary fame. The Payne family was one of the early English settlers of the Virginia colony. They have been closely identified with the history of Virginia and the nation. She spent her girlhood days on the old plantation, which adjoined the Big Sandy River in West Virginia. [She was] Educated at the Academy for Girls at Huntington, West Virginia and then two years at a private school for young ladies at Cincinnati, Ohio. Laura Payne was married to D. W. Cady, then of Rochester, New York April 12, 1865 and immediately removed to Battle Creek with her husband, where she has since made her home until her death last Saturday. Mrs. Cady is survived by three brothers and three sisters, Mrs. Thomas Charlton of Ironton, Ohio, Mrs. Ella McCullock of Hinton, West Virginia, Mrs. B. B. Burke of St. Petersburg, Florida and William, Alexander and Arthur, all of Kenova, West Virginia.

Mon Sep 27 01:31:26 1999 from pgpm3-1-30.olg.com
Frank Paine Comstock <comstock@olg.com> 

INFO FOR JOHN AND MARY PAINE. I found the following information for John Paine (born Mar 8, 1757, died Feb 19, 1803) and Mary (Aldrich) Paine (born Sep 8, 1762, died ??) in John's bible. There is no indication of a marriage date or where John and Mary lived. They had the following children: Prusha, born Jun 2, 1782, died Nov 30, 1826 (last name at time was White); Hannah, born May 28, 1784, died Oct 27, 1826; Asenath, born Dec 9, 1785, died Dec 25, 1825; Alpha, born Oct 6, 1878, apparently female as last name was Mowry at death on Nov 14, 1825; Tyler, born July 4, 1789, died May 3, 1830; Judith, born May 7, 1793, died June 14, 1827; John Jay, born Feb 17, 1795, died Jan 9, 1859 (??) in Smithfield, RI (see note at end); Mary, born Dec 23, 1796, died Jan 1, 1803; Lucina, born Dec 25, 1798, died Sep 15, 1828; Elizabeth, born Apr 23, 1801, died May 10, 1803. NOTE: Still looking for information on John Jay Paine; he married Olive Hall, date unknown, and had at least one child, Juliette Paine, born Dec 25, 1825 Woonsocket RI, died Feb 3, 1911, Providence RI. Looking for other children of John Jay and Olive Paine as well as occupation, religion, place of birth, etc. Hope the above helps someone.

Mon Sep 27 04:31:36 1999 from cust-156-69.as01.bois.eli.net
Sharlene Payne Powell <spowell66@juno.com> 

I am trying to locate Charles Payne, or any of his relatives, decendents, etc. He would be approximately 61 years old, give or take a couple of years. In 1966 he was living in northern California, San Jose area. If anybody has any information, I would be forever grateful. He is a father that I have never known. I'm excited to know more about my "roots"!!!! Please email me if you have any information. Thank you!

Tue Sep 28 19:17:31 1999 from gdprpx01-port-47.agt.net
Sonya <sonyab@telusplanet.net> 

Seeking information about the parents of Charles Payne Charles was born in England. He married Mary Brookes in 1810 in Christchurch, Hampshire. They moved to NEWFOUNDLAND, had and raised their family there. Charles may have had two brothers: John and Josiah. Anyone with information regarding any of these people please contact me. Thank you.

Fri Oct 22 10:27:32 1999 from
James Knight <coolest17@hotmail.com> 

Do you know a Mr Terry Paine who works at truro college??

Fri Oct 22 20:05:25 1999 from webcacheh05a.cache.pol.co.uk
Andrew Philip Paine <tom&anne@tompaine.freeserve.co.uk> 

I am tracing my family tree and have got back to my great great grandfather; a John Ulysses Paine of Caxton Cambidgeshire, England. He died on 8 Dec 1892 and was born in 1823. He is interned at Gamlingay. Also have details of his son James Kidman Paine of Caxton; his sons Douglas Mortlock and Donald Ulysses; and Douglas' son Peter Paine - my father. Main other connected family names, through wives were Kidman and Mortlock. Any help would be appreciated. Also understand part of family emigrated to South Africa in mid 19 Century to run a music shop.

Sat Oct 23 15:46:27 1999 from 207-172-224-12.s12.as1.hrt.ct.dialup.rcn.com
Robert White <rwwhite@erols.com> 

I am a descendant of Thomas Paine (c1611) and Mary Snow (c1630) of Eastham, MA. This couple had 88 grandchildren, so I know that there are a lot of us out there. My line: Capt. Thomas (1657) and Hannah Shaw(c1661) Barnabas (1705, 14th child) and Mary Purrington Joseph (1744/5, 10th child) and Rebecca Rich(1743) Barnabas (1767) and Lois Wooods (1768) (Barnabas was botn in Truro, MA, married Lois in Athol, MA, died in Massena, NY (my hometown)) Joseph (1797) and Lydia Mansfield (1795) Joseph (1820) and Mary Alverson (1830) Grace (1866) and Carl Richards (1867) I am researching descendants of these last 4 generations (from Barnabas & Lois on). I would love to share information with other descendants of Barnabas and Lois.

Sat Oct 30 02:22:13 1999 from 09-vald-024.dial.optilinkcomm.net
Vickie Mott Friddle <friddlej@surfsouth.com> 

Looking for parents of Potter Paine b 1798. He married Patience _______ in Orleans Co., NY, ca 1810. He and Patience moved to Albion, MI where she died 1839 and he died in 1872. They had 8 ch but only 2--Nathan Windsor b. 1823, and Marietta b ca1820-5 can be identified. Nathan married Orvilla Barney 1855 in Calhoun Co., MI. Any info is greatly appreciated. Vickie

Wed Nov 3 23:00:53 1999 from spider-tr034.proxy.aol.com
Steve Payne <Toqua360@aol.com> 

John Wesley Payne md Emaline Malone Mallow 1885 Loudon, Tn. Emaline d 1916 age 77 buried in Loudon Co. Tn John d 1908 Blount Co. Tn or; Wesley d 1912 Monroe Co. Tn (Help! ) Son: Charles Payne md Mabel Chambers Chattanooga, Tn They had issue; Earle, Harold ,Margret, Robert, Charles. Any info would help

Thu Nov 11 03:04:21 1999 from 1cust43.tnt3.santa-monica.ca.da.uu.net
DIANE SABIDO <DIANESAB@GTE.NET> 

I AM TRYING TO FIND THE PARENTS OF ELEANOR PAINE, HER HUSBAND WAS' THOMAS WAITE POSSIBLY OF HATFIELD MASSACHUSETTS IN ABT 1600'S THANK YOU, DIANE

Thu Nov 25 01:42:58 1999 from ndialup79.slkc.uswest.net
Kathy L. Moon Thompson <thompska@slcc.edu> 

I am looking for my GGrand Father Berga Albert Dalphas Moon born May 17, 1883 don't know where. He was married to Annie Urie Carlson in January 1907 and children born to them were Margaret and Dalphas Worthia Berga Moon (my Grandfather. He lived in Utah until he divorced Annie and she married A. Hagberg. It was told to me that Berga went back East and changed his name. (It was thought he was born in New York and returned there. Also said to be part Shoshone indian.) Can't find any information on him. Any help would be great.

Mon Nov 29 04:09:46 1999 from pm3-44.horizon.bc.ca
sue pepin <spepin@horizon.bc.ca> 

Iam trying to trace my family lines and need help with the Paines. My gr gr grandmother was Louisa Paine born 1816 and she married John Hayes in 1837 at St Mark's Kennington. Her father was John Paine and Mother Mary Marriner her grandmother was Mary Grey.

Mon Dec 20 04:33:26 1999 from proxy1.tpgi.com.au
carolynwebber <hotmail.com> 

Frank Paine/Australia Looking for any information on the family of Frank Paine, born in NSW in 1824 and died in 1915. He was married to Susan Rosana Phelps, and they lived in Smithfield, NSW. son was George James, Grandchildren Hubert Frank, Cecil George and Estelle Valerie. Thanks

Mon Dec 20 04:33:49 1999 from proxy1.tpgi.com.au
carolynwebber <hotmail.com> 

Frank Paine/Australia Looking for any information on the family of Frank Paine, born in NSW in 1824 and died in 1915. He was married to Susan Rosana Phelps, and they lived in Smithfield, NSW. son was George James, Grandchildren Hubert Frank, Cecil George and Estelle Valerie. Thanks

Mon Dec 27 06:58:22 1999 from cx90480-a.vista1.sdca.home.com
Olivia Paine Blades <OPAINE@hotmail.com> 

My name is Olivia Paine Blades. Blades is my father's last name. He is descended from Thomas Paine on his mother's side. His family's tradition of naming children was to name the first born child after the father's mother's maiden name. Thus I am Olivia Paine, confusingly after either great aunt Olivia or my grandmother.(?) Since I have had no contact with my father since I was 2, I don't know. I am one of twins, the other is named Katherine. My father if alive is probably 84 and he was a civil engineer. He had a brother Charles. I would like to find out more information. contact OPAINE@hotmail.com

Wed Dec 29 04:50:50 1999 from pm3-06.london.webgate.net
Thom Paine <thom@webgate.net> 

Good day all. I'm tracing the descendants of a Joseph Paine b1797 who married a woman by the name of Elizabeth b1795. They came over to Canada (where I live) with a son named John bDec17, 1822 and then I think that when they got here they had another son Thomas bNov9, 1836. There are numerous paines on down from these but what I'm hoping is that someone in the UK can help me out with maybe some boating records or an idea of where to start looking for informating on how the heck they got to Canada. Thanks all. Happy hunting. :)